cost of vegatarian diet

dkw12002 · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 242

Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw

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Cubit · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 1725

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> Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
> in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
> least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
> and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
> that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
> rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
> little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
> high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
> for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
> essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
> little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
> vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
> vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
> very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
> fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw

While you can't beat a rice only diet for being inexpensive, an all egg diet
is pretty cheap too.

Jo Anne · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 38

On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:23:06 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:

>
> wrote in message
>@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
>> in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
>> least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
>> and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
>> that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
>> rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
>> little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
>> high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
>> for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
>> essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
>> little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
>> vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
>> vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
>> very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
>> fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw
>
>While you can't beat a rice only diet for being inexpensive, an all egg diet
>is pretty cheap too.

A diet where you buy all your food on special is also cheap. Any time
you can get good quality protein for less than $2.00/pound, you are
doing well, because if you plan things correctly, you'll get 5-6
servings out of that pound of meat.

Veggies and fruit from the "reduced" rack are also a good deal. If the
produce has surface blemishes, cut them off. The remaining unblemished
part is still way cheaper than the "good" produce. Give the trimmings
to your dog if you have one.

I bought an acorn squash last week for $0.49. There was nothing wrong
with it. (There were 5 or 6 of the things on the reduced rack. I'm
wishing now that I'd bought them all.) I cut it in quarters and DH and
I had it two nights in a row. And the dogs ate the peels.

Jo Anne

dkw12002 · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 242

On Feb 12, 11:23 am, "Cubit" wrote:
> wrote in message
>
> @d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
> > in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
> > least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
> > and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
> > that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
> > rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
> > little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
> > high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
> > for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
> > essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
> > little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
> > vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
> > vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
> > very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
> > fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw
>
> While you can't beat a rice only diet for being inexpensive, an all egg diet
> is pretty cheap too.

True. Eggs are certainly a good and cheap protein. That is probably
why you tend to find chickens being kept in very poor areas. Besides
grains, chickens can also eat bugs, weed seeds, etc. that people don't
eat to produce the protein as well, plus you can eat the chicken. A
pretty good animal for humans. I don't eat chicken, but I eat the egg
whites which are loaded with complete protein without any cholesterol.
My dog gets the egg yolk.

There is an argument from many vegetarians that it is more efficient
to just eat the grains that the chicken, cattle, goats, hogs, etc. eat
because it requires many more grains to produce meat. I'm really not
sure that would even be true if you look at eggs, and milk, along with
the meat provided by the animals. Plus there is the fact that those
animals eat vegetarion that is not fit for human consumption and the
land that grows it would not support grain or vegetable production
without putting in a lot of energy like plowing, fertilizer, etc. that
add to the cost, polution, etc. of production. Goats seem the most
suitable in this respect since they seem to thrive on weeds, shrubs,
leaves, etc. They do need to eat some grain like corn or oats to do
really well as milkers though. Still, as animals go, chickens and
goats are probably ideal homestead creatures. I used to raise both. dkw

dkw12002 · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 242

On Feb 12, 6:22 pm, Jo Anne wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:23:06 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> >@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
> >> in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
> >> least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
> >> and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
> >> that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
> >> rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
> >> little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
> >> high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
> >> for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
> >> essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
> >> little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
> >> vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
> >> vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
> >> very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
> >> fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw
>
> >While you can't beat a rice only diet for being inexpensive, an all egg diet
> >is pretty cheap too.
>
> A diet where you buy all your food on special is also cheap. Any time
> you can get good quality protein for less than $2.00/pound, you are
> doing well, because if you plan things correctly, you'll get 5-6
> servings out of that pound of meat.
>
> Veggies and fruit from the "reduced" rack are also a good deal. If the
> produce has surface blemishes, cut them off. The remaining unblemished
> part is still way cheaper than the "good" produce. Give the trimmings
> to your dog if you have one.
>
> I bought an acorn squash last week for $0.49. There was nothing wrong
> with it. (There were 5 or 6 of the things on the reduced rack. I'm
> wishing now that I'd bought them all.) I cut it in quarters and DH and
> I had it two nights in a row. And the dogs ate the peels.
>
> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Right. I don't know why I even thing about such things as the cost of
food though. I like the idea of not being wasteful I think, yet don't
bat an eye when my investments go up or down $30,000 a day. Part of
that might be also that it is not only easy to eat cheaply, but it is
probably healthier. Fitting into nature with a smaller footprint is
part of it as well for me. I would like to make as little impact on
earth as possible. A vegetarian diet seems to fit in with those ideas.
dkw

dkw12002 · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 242

On Feb 12, 6:22 pm, Jo Anne wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:23:06 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> >@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
> >> in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
> >> least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
> >> and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
> >> that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
> >> rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
> >> little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
> >> high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
> >> for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
> >> essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
> >> little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
> >> vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
> >> vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
> >> very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
> >> fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw
>
> >While you can't beat a rice only diet for being inexpensive, an all egg diet
> >is pretty cheap too.
>
> A diet where you buy all your food on special is also cheap. Any time
> you can get good quality protein for less than $2.00/pound, you are
> doing well, because if you plan things correctly, you'll get 5-6
> servings out of that pound of meat.
>
> Veggies and fruit from the "reduced" rack are also a good deal. If the
> produce has surface blemishes, cut them off. The remaining unblemished
> part is still way cheaper than the "good" produce. Give the trimmings
> to your dog if you have one.
>
> I bought an acorn squash last week for $0.49. There was nothing wrong
> with it. (There were 5 or 6 of the things on the reduced rack. I'm
> wishing now that I'd bought them all.) I cut it in quarters and DH and
> I had it two nights in a row. And the dogs ate the peels.
>
> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not only that, but big supermarkets throw away a lot of food. Case in
point. My daughter had a sleepover at my house with two other girls
and they wanted donuts for breakfast. Yuk. Anyway, I went to Walmart
early the next moring to buy the donuts and got there at 7 am. I was
looking over the donuts and the lady that works there saw me picking
out a sack, and told me she was just getting ready to put out fresh
ones. I waiting while she came around from the bakery kitchen with
huge trays of fresh donuts. Then she took out all the old donuts
(which were just fine, but perhaps a few hours old, and throw them in
the garbage... hundreds of them. Produce, the same. When they find
boxes of things that leak, like oh tapioca, farina, etc, but not flour
or dog food, which they either ignore or tape over, they throw that
away too. Most stores won't even sell it to you at a big discount.
Some will though. Same with food on its "expiration" date. Somehow it
seems a little ridiculous to throw away cereal and grains for example
on one day that were sold for full price the day before. Almost nobody
I know would use an entire box of cereal in that one day for example,
yet they feel compelled to protect you from the out of date food on
their shelves. It kind of pisses me off. I want to buy it cheaply.
Worse yet, they throw the product away right in front of you in some
cases. It just seems wrong. Bad Karma. dkw

Cubit · Joined: 17 Aug 2007 Posts: 1725

$30K swings would get me upset.

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On Feb 12, 6:22 pm, Jo Anne wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:23:06 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:
>
> > wrote in message
> >@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >> Although it can be expensive to eat all-organic, eat out all the time
> >> in the more expensive restaurants, eating a vegetarian diet can be the
> >> least expensive diet of all. If you diet consists mostly of say rice
> >> and lentils for example, those are about the least expensive foods
> >> that can be obtained. I usually combine lentils and oats rather than
> >> rice and beans but the result is essentially the same. Oats are a
> >> little low in tryptophan, and lentils are high in tryptophan; oats are
> >> high in lysine, while lentils are a little low in tryptophan, making
> >> for a complete protein diet on those two foods alone. All the other
> >> essential amino acids are present in both oats and lentils. Add a
> >> little fresh fruit and green leafy vegetables and you have a balanced
> >> vegetarian diet. Cost? Perhaps $1 a day. Like most things, eating
> >> vegetarian has both a ying and yang component, since you would also be
> >> very expensive foods, and also foods high in sugar and vegetable
> >> fat...like peanut butter or pecan pie, which may not be so healthy. dkw
>
> >While you can't beat a rice only diet for being inexpensive, an all egg
> >diet
> >is pretty cheap too.
>
> A diet where you buy all your food on special is also cheap. Any time
> you can get good quality protein for less than $2.00/pound, you are
> doing well, because if you plan things correctly, you'll get 5-6
> servings out of that pound of meat.
>
> Veggies and fruit from the "reduced" rack are also a good deal. If the
> produce has surface blemishes, cut them off. The remaining unblemished
> part is still way cheaper than the "good" produce. Give the trimmings
> to your dog if you have one.
>
> I bought an acorn squash last week for $0.49. There was nothing wrong
> with it. (There were 5 or 6 of the things on the reduced rack. I'm
> wishing now that I'd bought them all.) I cut it in quarters and DH and
> I had it two nights in a row. And the dogs ate the peels.
>
> Jo Anne- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Right. I don't know why I even thing about such things as the cost of
food though. I like the idea of not being wasteful I think, yet don't
bat an eye when my investments go up or down $30,000 a day. Part of
that might be also that it is not only easy to eat cheaply, but it is
probably healthier. Fitting into nature with a smaller footprint is
part of it as well for me. I would like to make as little impact on
earth as possible. A vegetarian diet seems to fit in with those ideas.
dkw

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